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What value do course certificates have?

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How do people use these certificates? Is it just something they like to collect? Do employers actually value them? I think of the certificates as a personal gratification or acknowledgment of a course you took. Would an employer be impressed?

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@Judith

We have heard many times that in some countries employers value them, they do not seem to be concerned with the actual work the applicant has done.
In other countries nobody values any online certificates.
Some people just use them to make themselves look amazing to certain audiences by putting the certificates on Facebook and other platforms.
I know of a person who wallpapered her office with printed certificates :)
Certificates earned on certain platforms may be valued more if there are no unlimited submissions.
Thanks,@Lochcarron . This is all a new field so I have no idea how much respect these certificates get. In the field of education, my field, you need to prove that you are studying and learning to advance yourself. If you take a course, you would need to show proof, by having a certificate. But more important than that, you would need to write up what you learned and how you could apply it. This way, you would really have had to pay attention, read the materials and learned something.
I agree that unlimited submissions hurts the value of certificates, if they are needed for a job. However, it is also a wonderful opportunity for people to be able to learn from some of the best Instructors in the world. I wonder what percentage of people take courses for their own personal advancement and pleasure vs people who take them in order to get a better job?
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Maybe this time it is new but in future many universities and companies go to online badges and certifications
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What is the experience in the US? I mostly take courses for my personal development without a certificate. The MOOC platform is more valued when you are given the opportunity to take a training through email invitations from organizations like WHO ( for health related professionals), FAO, World Bank and UNICEF.
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As i discussed in a different topic with Judith, for now not many employers are valued the course certificates. I also think here in Germany, not only one employer are valued MOOC based certificates, because the think Mooc´s are a temporarily phenomenon. But i´m convinced in the future course certificates become more value as now, because the platforms are continue growing and new universities participate.

When the Mooc System are so bad as some people say, why we have so many universities they participate ???
One of the issues MOOCs have is that they are all not equal. Those set up to count as University credit will be valuable. Many are set up for personal pleasure and learning. The knowledge you gain can certainly help your employment, but since they are so diverse in expectations an employer can’t necessarily trust the certificate as proof of someone ‘s knowledge. Tests and assignments have unlimited attempts so with
perserverance, most will be able to a certificate. This doesn’t mean they are useless. In the field of education, teachers are expected to keep learning about their profession. You can use a certificate to prove you have been doing this. But in the end, your application of the knowledge gained is what will speak best for you.
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Absolutley right Judith. The most important thing is the knowledge, not the certificate or University Degree. Both things are a nice to have, but when you dont know about what you speak or you cannot explain what you have learned, the best certificate or Degree helps you nothing in my opinion.
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I can say that at Egypt , It means nothing to employers as you can cheat on the courses to get the certificate.But it's as sign of personal development.
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My intention to get a certificate is to increase my motivation to learn a subject that I am interested in and to complete the course. Although I keep it to myself, it is encouraging to get a certificate from the world's best institution. So, my attitude to certificates could be similar to you: personal gratification.

Although I haven't used certificates for my job search yet, it could be helpful if you use it wisely. One way is to supplement your weakness. For example, suppose you possess important skills and experience to do the job you are applying for, but don't have a specific skill in a certain field. Under this situation, a certificate can help. It shows your awareness of your weakness and your initiatives to overcome it. Of course, we still need to hope that the potential employer is at least aware of MOOCs.
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@Kohei, I love this observation:

"Although I haven't used certificates for my job search yet, it could be helpful if you use it wisely. One way is to supplement your weakness. For example, suppose you possess important skills and experience to do the job you are applying for, but don't have a specific skill in a certain field. Under this situation, a certificate can help. It shows your awareness of your weakness and your initiatives to overcome it."

What an insightful way to think about the value of a certificate. I fully agree!
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@Laura , thank you for your encouraging remark. Pleased to hear you like it.

To give a simple example, a college student applying for an internship may take advantage of a certificate easily. He or she could be book smart, without practical experiences. So, the student could increase the credential by gaining a certificate in a related field to the position.

On the other hand, experienced professionals would probably need to be wiser in deciding which certificate to present to the potential employer. One way to do is to supplement your weakness, relative to what the employer is looking for. This could increase your credential.

The good news is that Coursera offers classes in a very wide range of fields to help you.
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Thanks,@Lochcarron . This is all a new field so I have no idea how much respect these certificates get. In the field of education, my field, you need to prove that you are studying and learning to advance yourself. If you take a course, you would need to show proof, by having a certificate. But more important than that, you would need to write up what you learned and how you could apply it. This way, you would really have had to pay attention, read the materials and learned something.
I agree that unlimited submissions hurts the value of certificates, if they are needed for a job. However, it is also a wonderful opportunity for people to be able to learn from some of the best Instructors in the world. I wonder what percentage of people take courses for their own personal advancement and pleasure vs people who take them in order to get a better job?


I take the courses first and foremost to learn, and secondly for my own gratification, to know I have achieved something.

The unlimited number of participants and the fact that there is no criteria for entering the courses, certainly degrade the courses somewhat, as anyone can pass. The first specialisation I took, was filled with "would-be's if they could be's", and well, I might be one of them. But what I could see is, that their level of English, did not stand up to writing the assignments.

It would be interesting to know, how many actually starts courses, and how many finish them.

However, the most important must be, that the students felt they achieved something, which I don't know if they did. But I did.
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Hi @Xamãma. You may be interested in this post: Could MOOC completion rate really represent MOOC success?
@Laura , that was a really fascinating discussion, good to revive it. Most people assume that if you don’t complete something, it was a failure. This is so not true and interesting to think about.
@Xamãma I am so glad you felt successful as a result of the course you took.
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I started taking courses a few months ago and am really hooked. Its good learning. However, I have reviewed may be 40 assignments so far, and I must say that 80% people from Pakistan (I am Pakistani) and India, unfortunately, cheat or submit bogus assignments. One person even sent back my own submission back to me as his! THAT makes me wonder, how many are getting away with such cheating. And if so, is it really worth anything.

It seems that a group of friends take the same course, and try to give each other good reviews.

Some submit a bogus assignment or simply enter a period (.) or a slash (/). You send that back to them. But meanwhile they got someone else’ assignment to copy.

I am really questioning it now

 

@Abu Sameed this has been going on for a while and it is horrible. I hope that whenever you find someone cheating like this, you flag it and report it to the Help Center.

People who cheat like this cheat themselves. Their certificates are meaningless. If they ever intended to use them for their career they would be found out immediately since they never acquired the skills needed. I can’t imagine feeling pride that you have taken a course when you cheated.

However, there are such excellent courses offered here. Don’t let that stop you from gaining knowledge personally. Take the courses, learn what you can and enjoy the knowledge you will get because  you are an honest person.

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This is an important question, for me I take a given courses in order to learn new things or increasing my knowledge in order to improve my competency. As you are experiencing, online education is getting more value due to this issue of covid19 which challenge everything all over the world. Many universities and schools are moving to online teaching in order to fight the spread of the pandemic.

However, they're some limitations and challenges of online education, even in my country online learning is still new thing, but I hope as the world is growing faster in using online channels in different ways in service delivery people will continue to be familiar with it, and there'll be a time even recruiters will give online certification or education value it deserves.

Well, in these days MOOCs are booming more people are joining them, many courses are being created in different domains but challenges are still arising which is discouraging its credibility. I read a comment here which talked about people who are looking certificate just a paper by cheating, it's too bad but I think in every conner of the life such people are there, and that can't discourage me to keep learning. I hope system will continue to be be improved in order to discourage those who can attempt to cheat. 

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@AC Samuel , I agree with you and am so glad you are taking courses and learning here. I used to think that it shouldn’t matter if someone else cheats as long as I don’t…..but then, someone copied one of my assignments and it made me so upset. Why should someone else use what I wrote and get credit for it? It also makes the certificates meaningless if people cheat like this. But Coursera knows about this and is working on being able to deal with this.

You’re right that there are cheaters everywhere. That shouldn’t mean you won’t appreciate the knowledge you will gain in a course. I think all written assignments should be eliminated and the learning model go to quizzes and tests instead, where you can’t plagiarize.

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